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L2C Leadership Stories Podcast from Leading to Change in partnership with NHS Education for Scotland. In this podcast, we talk with real leaders from our social work, social care, health and related third, voluntary and independent sector organisations about what it is really like to lead in our system today. We ask them about their career, who inspired them, their own leadership approach as well as their toughest moments and their view of the big issues today. Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human. © NHS Education for Scotland 2024. You can copy or reproduce the information in this resource for use within NHS Scotland and for non-commercial educational purposes. Use of this document for commercial purposes is permitted only with the written permission of NHS Education for Scotland
Episodes

Monday Mar 03, 2025
Monday Mar 03, 2025
Julia MacKenzie (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Jacquie Balkan about her experience as a participant of Leading for the Future, a national programme delivered by NHS Education for Scotland (NES). They talk about what how Jacquie heard about the opportunity, what attracted her to the programme, and the benefit of being part of an adaptive learning set through COVID. They also discuss mentor support, key learning and learning to work differently across the system to tackle challenges.
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can play this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers, and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
Access the Jacquie Balkan podcast transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Monday Feb 24, 2025
10. Katy Martin, Head of Development and External Relations at Quarriers
Monday Feb 24, 2025
Monday Feb 24, 2025
In this podcast, Julia MacKenzie (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Katy Martin about her participation in Leading for the Future, a national leadership programme run by NHS Education for Scotland (NES). They talk about what drew Katy to the programme, who supported her in applying and completing the programme and her experience of being part of an Adaptive Learning Set and national cohort. This episode is particularly relevant for those in social work, social care and third or voluntary sectors who may be interested in the potential benefits of applying for a national leadership programme.
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can play this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers, and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
Access the Katy Martin podcast transcript on our website
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Monday Dec 02, 2024
9. Maree Allison, Chief Executive of Scottish Social Services Council (SSSC)
Monday Dec 02, 2024
Monday Dec 02, 2024
In this podcast, Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Maree Allison about her role as Chief Executive of SSSC, and what it is really like to lead in our system today. They talk about Maree's career, who inspired her, her own leadership approach as well as her toughest moments and her view of the big issues today.
Leadership ideas include collective and compassionate leadership, values driven leadership, having the confidence to go for the promoted role, agile working and wellbeing with very practical ideas on how to do this. There is also a reference to the book 'Turn the Ship Around! by L. David Marquet and Leading to Change's Leadership Bites events. You can find the Inspiring Care stories on the SSSC website.
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can play this episode with captions, sound and visual. If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers, and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
Access the Maree Allison podcast transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Friday Nov 15, 2024
8. Dr Elizabeth Kelly, Chair of the Improving Wellbeing and Working Cultures
Friday Nov 15, 2024
Friday Nov 15, 2024
Dr Elizabeth Kelly, Chair of the Improving Wellbeing and Working Cultures (IWWC) Board. In this podcast, Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Elizabeth Kelly about her role as Chair of the IWWC Board and what it is really like to lead in our system today. They talk about Elizabeth's career, who inspired her, her own leadership approach as well as her toughest moments and her view of the big issues today. This episode also explores what the IWWC is, what it means for those working in social work, social care, health and related organisations and what support is available for those facing some of the issues raised within the conversation.
Leadership ideas include humanity, equalities, inclusive leadership, wellbeing, coaching and systems leadership..
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human. To visit the National Wellbeing Hub mentioned in this episode visit The Wellbeing Hub
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can play this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers, and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
Access the Dr Elizabeth Kelly podcast transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Friday Jul 05, 2024
7. Fiona Hogg, Chief People Officer, Health Workforce, Scottish Government
Friday Jul 05, 2024
Friday Jul 05, 2024
Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Fiona Hogg about her role as Chief People Officer for the Health Workforce in Scottish Government. They talk about Fiona’s role and career – including how it feels to have to make yourself redundant (twice!), who inspired her, her own leadership approach, tough leadership moments, and her view of the what the big issues are in our system.
Leadership ideas and themes include Stephen Covey’s & Habits of Highly Effective People (Circle of Influence and Circle of Control), self-awareness and appreciating differences in others, the impact of navigating workplace culture change in the light of the Sturrock Report and with media attention.
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can watch this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions. You can access the Fiona Hogg episode transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Friday Jun 28, 2024
6. Gordon Paterson, Director of Social Care, NHS Education for Scotland
Friday Jun 28, 2024
Friday Jun 28, 2024
Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Gordon Paterson about his role as Director of Social Care for NHS Education for Scotland. They talk about Gordon’s career, how he still sees himself as a Social Worker first, who inspired him, being guided by values rather than a specific leadership approach, tough leadership moments, and what he would like to see change in our system.
Leadership ideas and themes include understanding your core purpose and identity, values over leadership approaches and the work of Stephen Covey - Seven Habits of Highly Effective People and Stephen M Covey, Trust and Inspire. Themes also discussed are purpose, values, social activism and leadership and how these can come together in who we work for and with, and how we show up.
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can watch this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
You can access the Gordon Paterson’s episode transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Friday Jun 21, 2024
Friday Jun 21, 2024
Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Anna Fowlie about her role as Chief Executive of SCVO. They talk about Anna’s career, how early Chief Exec’s got her thinking about leading organisations, who inspired her, her own leadership approach, tough leadership moments, and her view of the what the big issues are in our system.
Leadership ideas and themes include being interested in people, being curious, purpose driven work, the problem with constantly redefining the problem, collective leadership, empowerment, authenticity, strategic thinking and empathy, working with care-experienced young people, values-led leadership, honesty and courageous conversations. Anna also talks about lessons lost, reflective practice and peer support during the pandemic period.
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can watch this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
You can access the Anna Fowlie episode transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Friday Jun 14, 2024
4. Ron Culley, Chief Executive, Quarriers
Friday Jun 14, 2024
Friday Jun 14, 2024
Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Ron Culley about his role as Chief Executive of Quarriers. They talk about Ron’s career, who inspired him and his own leadership approach, tough leadership moments, asking the unpalatable question, and his view of the what the big issues are in our system.
With a strong theme of values, purpose and passion and togetherness in the work you are involved in, other leadership themes featured include asking what the question should be, creating space to do this safely (psychological safety) collective leadership, co-production, empowerment, humility in leadership and the phrase 'nothing for us, without us'. Ron also shares the challenging impacts of the current staffing and funding issues on the third sector in this honest and insightful conversation.
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human. This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can watch this episode with captions, sound and visual. If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions. You can access the Ron Culley episode transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance

Monday Jun 10, 2024
Monday Jun 10, 2024
Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Dee Fraser about her role as Chief Executive of IRISS. They talk about Dee’s career, who inspired her, her own leadership approach, tough leadership moments including owning difficult decisions and outcomes, and her view of the what the big issues are in our system.
Leadership ideas and names mentioned Brene Brown on Vulnerabilities, Susan Cain’s work on introversion and leadership, Victor Frankl’s quote about stimulus and response, Hobson’s Choice, the importance of reflective practice in a format that works for you,
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can watch this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
You can access the Dee Fraser episode transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Friday May 31, 2024
2. Brian Chittick, Chief Executive of NHS Shetland
Friday May 31, 2024
Friday May 31, 2024
In this podcast, Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Brian Chittick about his role as Chief Executive of NHS Shetland. They talk about Brian’s career, including his military experience, who inspired him, his own leadership approach as well as his toughest moments and his view of the big issues today.
Leadership ideas and names mentioned include Donald Rumsfeld’s Knowns, Unknowns and Unknown Unknowns (Rumfeld Matrix), Amy Edmondson (et al) Psychological Safety, Chris Turner and Civility Saves Lives, Edgar Schein’s Humble Enquiry, Stephen Covey’s 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, Brene Brown’s Dare to Lead, L.David Marquet’s Turn the Ship Around.
Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo channel where you can watch this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
You can access the Brian Chittick episode transcript on our website.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.

Friday May 24, 2024
Friday May 24, 2024
Sara Dewar (Leading to Change) is in conversation with Sara Redmond about her role as Chief Officer for the Alliance and what it is really like to lead in our system today. They talk about Sara’s career, who inspired her, her own leadership approach as well as her toughest moments and her view of the big issues today.
Leadership ideas and names mentioned include Brene Brown and stepping into the arena, ‘Myrons Maxims’ (Heart of the Art), courageous leadership, humility, values, and purpose and the reality of owning and managing our emotions around decisions and injustice. Our purpose is to provide an opportunity to hear from leaders across our wider system and to remind us that there is more that connects us than divides us, as we are all human.
This podcast is also available on our Vimeo Channel where you can play this episode with captions, sound and visual.
If would like to find out more, you can find resources, offers, and events on our Leading to Change website, explore more about our app, and discover how to record your learning from some of our home-grown content. You can also email us with any questions.
The information contained in this podcast is current at the point of publication, with no guarantee of future relevance.
Access the Sara Redmond podcast transcript on our website.

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These podcasts are part of a wide range of resources, events, and programmes offered by Leading to Change. Visit the Leading to Change website for resources, events, blogs, our Allyship hub and programmes. Questions or feedback? Email us at hello@leadingtochange.scot